No air in lines, ah, yes air infiltration was likely seals or injectors needing replacing due to chlorine degradation. So that fixed that.
Currently, intermittent light brown water.
Need to replace calcite/corosex.
Manually regenerating resin tank as could be fouled resin.
Tue, Apr 4, 2017:
"Now we know I'd been running my MTM tank without the riser tube being secured into the valve. At some point I'd decided to replace my tanks with 10x44 vortech tanks as I like the technology and compared to the 10x47 tanks I'd been using I'd have more headroom in the crawlspace. I wish I had someone to blame other than myself, but I've always tried to do it mostly on my own and I ended up somehow with a Fleck 7000 without the correct part to seat the riser tube."
Sunday, December 29, 2019
Thursday, June 20, 2019
As of 6/20/19
Cleaned air check in brine tank of softener.
Cleaned toilet tanks in house.
This along with all new injectors and seals and spacers should resolve any air in plumbing and iron in toilet tanks.
Check for air and iron in toilet tanks by 7/20/19.
If air remains check other two brine air checks and post question as to alternate air entry points.
If iron remains consider replacing water heater and/or softener valve.
Cleaned air check in brine tank of softener.
Cleaned toilet tanks in house.
This along with all new injectors and seals and spacers should resolve any air in plumbing and iron in toilet tanks.
Check for air and iron in toilet tanks by 7/20/19.
If air remains check other two brine air checks and post question as to alternate air entry points.
If iron remains consider replacing water heater and/or softener valve.
Monday, June 17, 2019
Replaced seals and spacers on all valves (calcite, kat1, kat2, carbon, and resin).
Replaced injectors on kat1 and kat2.
Should probably replace seals, spacer, and injectors on these first three tanks every six months.
Need to add calcite (ordered) and centaur carbon (should check when last replaced).
answer: 7000 Centaur Carbon 10x44 Vortech (media replaced June 2018)
Both KatL tanks are now drawing.
Trickle down drain line from calcite tank corrected.
Replaced injectors on kat1 and kat2.
Should probably replace seals, spacer, and injectors on these first three tanks every six months.
Need to add calcite (ordered) and centaur carbon (should check when last replaced).
answer: 7000 Centaur Carbon 10x44 Vortech (media replaced June 2018)
Both KatL tanks are now drawing.
Trickle down drain line from calcite tank corrected.
Sunday, June 16, 2019
Recent trouble of iron in toilet tanks.
After much work I believe the problem may have been the water heater!
Flushed much rusty sediment from water heater.
Also flushed my two retention tanks.
Topped off chlorine injection tank.
So far no morning pulse of iron or air.
Other trouble includes pot perm not drawing on either kat tank.
Replaced seals and piston and cleaned kat1, no luck.
Replaced seals and cleaned kat2, no luck.
Will order new injectors.
Need to confirm programming times after this work.
After much work I believe the problem may have been the water heater!
Flushed much rusty sediment from water heater.
Also flushed my two retention tanks.
Topped off chlorine injection tank.
So far no morning pulse of iron or air.
Other trouble includes pot perm not drawing on either kat tank.
Replaced seals and piston and cleaned kat1, no luck.
Replaced seals and cleaned kat2, no luck.
Will order new injectors.
Need to confirm programming times after this work.
Saturday, April 20, 2019
Sunday, April 14, 2019
First, it appears the time of day setting was incorrect for K1 tank such that it was overlapping with K2. Probably for the last three weeks.
Also realizing that toilet use during softener regeneration is allowing that bit of insoluble iron trough to interact with chlorine tab in toilet reservoir.
Also also, it could just be the softener needs a bit more B2 or RR so increased B2 from 5 to 6 and RR from 10 to 12.
---Time of day settings now correct and softener timing tweaked and keeping a log for use of master bath toilet.
Also realizing that toilet use during softener regeneration is allowing that bit of insoluble iron trough to interact with chlorine tab in toilet reservoir.
Also also, it could just be the softener needs a bit more B2 or RR so increased B2 from 5 to 6 and RR from 10 to 12.
---Time of day settings now correct and softener timing tweaked and keeping a log for use of master bath toilet.
More testing the next day late afternoon (previous samples were also late afternoon).
Soluble Iron zero
Total Iron also looks like zero
BYPASS softener
Soluble Iron zero
Total Iron about .1ppm.
BYPASS softener, centaur carbon, and second Katalox Light tank
Soluble Iron 7-9ppm
Total Iron not tested
BYPASS softener, centaur carbon, and both Katalox Light tanks
Soluble Iron 9-10ppm
Total Iron not tested
Notes:
Total system is under ideal conditions resulting in no measurable iron
Softener isn't removing much iron
Second Katalox Light tank with Centaur Carbon tank are removing a great deal of iron.
Even with chlorine injection/retention time, calcite tank, and one Katalox Light tank 7-9ppm of iron remain in water.
I would have expected half that number or even less. Is the first Katalox Light tank doing its job?
The second Katalox Light tank and Centaur Carbon tank then remove almost all of that amount with softener doing a small amount of polishing.
As ditto suggested I should: "Backwash the KL tank and see how much iron is coming out during the backwash cycle. Once the water runs clear you should add several minutes after that in the backwash cycle. Be sure to have an adequate rapid rinse cycle."
I should also test the backwash of the softener. If the softener backwash contains iron then the toilet reservoir tank problem could be due to insufficient backwash time and/or use during regeneration?
Below you first see the total iron test of water out of the softener.
Second is the total iron test of water bypassing the softener.
Third is soluble iron test of water bypassing KL2 and Carbon tanks (this result was virtually indistinguishable from the test after bypassing both KL tanks).\
Soluble Iron zero
Total Iron also looks like zero
BYPASS softener
Soluble Iron zero
Total Iron about .1ppm.
BYPASS softener, centaur carbon, and second Katalox Light tank
Soluble Iron 7-9ppm
Total Iron not tested
BYPASS softener, centaur carbon, and both Katalox Light tanks
Soluble Iron 9-10ppm
Total Iron not tested
Notes:
Total system is under ideal conditions resulting in no measurable iron
Softener isn't removing much iron
Second Katalox Light tank with Centaur Carbon tank are removing a great deal of iron.
Even with chlorine injection/retention time, calcite tank, and one Katalox Light tank 7-9ppm of iron remain in water.
I would have expected half that number or even less. Is the first Katalox Light tank doing its job?
The second Katalox Light tank and Centaur Carbon tank then remove almost all of that amount with softener doing a small amount of polishing.
As ditto suggested I should: "Backwash the KL tank and see how much iron is coming out during the backwash cycle. Once the water runs clear you should add several minutes after that in the backwash cycle. Be sure to have an adequate rapid rinse cycle."
I should also test the backwash of the softener. If the softener backwash contains iron then the toilet reservoir tank problem could be due to insufficient backwash time and/or use during regeneration?
Below you first see the total iron test of water out of the softener.
Second is the total iron test of water bypassing the softener.
Third is soluble iron test of water bypassing KL2 and Carbon tanks (this result was virtually indistinguishable from the test after bypassing both KL tanks).\
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